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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2005.05.19 15:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Serilla
Income: 10.5 mill - 20mill isk
Target price for Hafnium: 3,500 per unit
Gross per week if we sell at this price: 14.7 mill
I think there is a terrible mistake here ...
100 units mined per hour... that's easily 2200 units a day (assuming the slight bug which makes some moon raw material lost at DT)
2200units a day is 15400 units a week... at 3500isk a pop...its 53,900,000 isk a week...
you may want to do your math right before whinning that your POS is not profitable...
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2005.05.19 15:31:00 -
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If you do not suffer from the DT bug (I don't on my large POS mining vanadium and have heard of others that don't either) that's :
2400 units/day * 7 days * 3500 isk a unit =58,8M isk a week
that's more then enough to cover large POS fuel requirements by far... 
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2005.05.19 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Frost Killer
Originally by: Tas Devil
If you do not suffer from the DT bug (I don't on my large POS mining vanadium and have heard of others that don't either) that's :
2400 units/day * 7 days * 3500 isk a unit =58,8M isk a week
that's more then enough to cover large POS fuel requirements by far...
If your only making 58.8mil isk a week that means your in the hole isk wise. To run a large POS it costs 65-80mil per week depending on station load.
Might beable to get it cheaper but still not that cheap. Unless you mine your own ice, then you can say its cheaper but really your still using money to power it.
That is quite untrue...
Cost of a large POS per week are as follows :
Industrial Fuels:
1M /day or 7M /week (its actually less then this more like 900k a day but for the sake of simplicity lets go on 1M a day)
Ice Related Fuels:
285 white glaze will provide all the Nitrogen isotopes and all the Heavy water I need for my Caldari tower as well as about 45% of the liquid ozone I need (this assumes perfect refining skills and limited tax payment where you refine)
Price per white glaze : 135k a pop in empire
Price of ice : 285 *135 = 38,5M
This still requires I buy about 8200 units of LO a week. that can be found in empire at 400isk a pop
Cost of extra LO = 8200*400=3,28M.
Total weekly cost of running a Large POS : 7 + 38,5 + 3,5 = 49M.
Don't even start telling me you may have a different setup requiring more HW then mine ... jheavy water can be nought in empire for 150isk a pop...so the cost of Large POS using 100% CPU is 1,5M more then this.
This is still within 50M a week using standard empire prices and no corp mining at all !
Sorry if your POS costs you 65-80M a week you are paying way too much somewhere matey
I make a profit mining only 1 moon materiel on our large POS which is just sold in empire... and that's not counting the profits made on the intensive refinery array + the value of a POS to refit at for our PVPers etc...
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2005.05.19 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Serilla
Originally by: Tas Devil
Originally by: Serilla
Income: 10.5 mill - 20mill isk
Target price for Hafnium: 3,500 per unit
Gross per week if we sell at this price: 14.7 mill
I think there is a terrible mistake here ...
100 units mined per hour... that's easily 2200 units a day (assuming the slight bug which makes some moon raw material lost at DT)
2200units a day is 15400 units a week... at 3500isk a pop...its 53,900,000 isk a week...
you may want to do your math right before whinning that your POS is not profitable...
Hey tas, it is a small controll tower.
100 units every 4 hours, not every hour.
ok then divide the revenue by 4 ... so more like 14,7M a week but devide the costs by 4 as well... so 12,5M a week... you still make a profit... and my calculations are only using easyly obtainable fuels in empire @ empire prices!
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2005.05.19 23:22:00 -
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Then mine Veldsapr... not all new introduction of featires in eve should be more profitable then the previous..that's infltionary pressure right there ... In my opinion its totally cool that a POS is not more profitable then mining veldsapr at the small stage...there are economies of scale for almost no more logistical work for a Large POS...
if you only look at it from the angel of is it th most profitable activity in eve ...then probably just mine veldspar... the most profitable activities in eve aren't thought of ny the Devs in the first place anyway but by inventive players with some business acumen and a knack at spotting opportunities... what was my point about sppon feeding everything in this game ?
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